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Agenda:
- Go over Pat's sample AnnotationOfAnnotation to see if it fits our need. (Qinyan put all related sample files in wiki.)
- New type needed for describing matching nodules in AnnotationOfAnnotation.
- What values of id that grid service expects in AIM object---question for Tony.
- Name conventions/formats for name and uniqueIdentifier attributes of ImageAnnotation tag.
- Overview of MAX nodule mapping progress
- RADLEX term curation
Meeting Notes:
- Go over Pat's sample AnnotationOfAnnotation to see if it fits our need. (Qinyan put all related sample files in wiki.)
- annotation of annotation would be a good place to put the PMAPs
- Does max output match nodules regardless of whether they're >3 mm or <3mm?
- We can work with Sam offline and he has a record of all markings
- Sam says MAX does not do anything with the Non-nodules when there is not spacial correlation with another "nodule" lesion
- Many situations where some radiologists mark something as a big nodule and others mark it as a non-nodule
- We need to run a test of how MAX behaves when there is a mixed opinion of whether something is a nodule or non-nodule (Sam to forward an example)
- New type needed for describing matching nodules in AnnotationOfAnnotation.
- None of the current types really match the needs of this project
- Suggested creation of a new type called "Nodule Matching"
- Pat will discuss with Dave Channin about adding this in to AIM 2.0
- This will be a value domain, not a complex type
- Tony: if this is a value domain the schema will not need to be changed
- If we're going to add an attribute or data type we'll need to regenerate the AIM data service. Tony can help Qinyan with doing this.
- What values of id that grid service expects in AIM object---question for Tony.
- it is sometimes unclear about how to handle "ID" attributes
- Tony: ID is not being treated as a primary key
- Name conventions/formats for name and uniqueIdentifier attributes of ImageAnnotation tag.
- Qinyan, John, Justin will discuss offline due to time constraints in the meeting
- Overview of MAX nodule mapping progress
- this was covered in agenda item #1 as part of the annotation of annotation discussion
- RADLEX term curation
- John: we want to update RADLEX with LIDC terms
- Sam: maybe we should discuss before doing something like this
- John: discussion/review on these terms would occur in the RADLEX committee that approves terms (Sam to get us details on the findings of this)
- Sam: group at DePaul did a comparison of LIDC/RADLEX terms in the past
- Sam: if RADLEX wants to assume the duty of comparison and sign off he's ok with it
- Misc issues raised
- Service date/time - we are going to preserve the LIDC service date in AIM
- Class comment attribute - use this to identify AIM annotations as having come from LIDC
- Raised creation of "franken-AIM" that would basically be AIM "v1.NCIA". Pat would prefer not to have to manage two separate models (this one + AIM 2.0). Alpha model of AIM 2.0 integration may be possible if pending funding issues are addressed.